[ApaTexas] Store front churches
doug
dougger at airmail.net
Thu May 15 15:21:57 CDT 2008
Before this gets out of hand, I would like to appeal to everyone that we use
listserv the way it was intended, and not clutter-up everyone's e-mail. All
of us have topics we want to explore, and according to Kim, we will be able
to do that at the following link:
http://www.txplanning.org/listserv.htm
doug henderson, aicp
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[mailto:apatexas-bounces at list.planning.org] On Behalf Of Cheryl McClain
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 3:07 PM
To: 'Dan C. Boutwell'; Kurt.Schulte at kimley-horn.com;
knilssen at cityofforney.org; ABuckley at cokercompany.com;
ktemplin at ci.seabrook.tx.us; fmorris at ci.belton.tx.us;
apatexas at list.planning.org
Subject: Re: [ApaTexas] Store front churches
I have to agree with Dan Boutwell.
C. A. McClain
Director, Community Development
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[mailto:apatexas-bounces at list.planning.org] On Behalf Of Dan C. Boutwell
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 2:52 PM
To: Kurt.Schulte at kimley-horn.com; knilssen at cityofforney.org;
ABuckley at cokercompany.com; ktemplin at ci.seabrook.tx.us;
fmorris at ci.belton.tx.us; apatexas at list.planning.org
Subject: Re: [ApaTexas] Store front churches
Mr. Schulte,
I regret you are bothered with the responses. However, they are very
helpful to me since we are also addressing this issue with some of our other
clients. We would appreciate continuing the 'reply to all". Perhaps your
name needs to be removed from the list.
Respectfully submitted,
Municipal Planning Resources Group, Inc.
Dan
Dan C. Boutwell, AICP
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[mailto:apatexas-bounces at list.planning.org] On Behalf Of
Kurt.Schulte at kimley-horn.com
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 12:07 PM
To: knilssen at cityofforney.org; ABuckley at cokercompany.com;
ktemplin at ci.seabrook.tx.us; fmorris at ci.belton.tx.us;
apatexas at list.planning.org
Subject: Re: [ApaTexas] Store front churches
While this dialog is interesting my email is crowded enough. Please stop
the reply to all.
-----Original Message-----
From: Kathryn Nilssen <knilssen at cityofforney.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 12:00 PM
To: 'Audra Buckley' <ABuckley at cokercompany.com>; 'Kelly Templin'
<ktemplin at ci.seabrook.tx.us>; 'Fred Morris' <fmorris at ci.belton.tx.us>;
apatexas at list.planning.org <apatexas at list.planning.org>
Subject: Re: [ApaTexas] Store front churches
Yes I agree. Churches are technically
permitted by right in any zoning district but they must follow all other
regulations. For new construction, our zoning designates a church to follow
a Neighborhood Services set of regulations (as well as schools and
daycares). Subregs are followed as if the church is a commercial use. If a
church goes into an existing structure the only restriction would be the
number of parking spaces available and of course any building code changes
if the structure is converting to an "assembly use". Depending on size they
may have to sprinkle and that can be an economic hurdle.
Kathryn Nilssen
Director of Planning
City of Forney
100 West Broad Street, Suite D
P.O. Box 826
Forney, TX 75126
972-564-7300 Ext 186
knilssen at cityofforney.org
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From: apatexas-bounces at list.planning.org
[mailto:apatexas-bounces at list.planning.org] On Behalf Of Audra Buckley
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 10:52 AM
To: Kelly Templin; Fred Morris; apatexas at list.planning.org
Subject: Re: [ApaTexas] Store front churches
Yes, I believe Kelly is correct. The federal government passed RLUIPA in
2001 or possibly 2002 and many of the statutes passed since are based on
this act. The only legal way that I know of to regulate the location of
churches is via access and parking requirements. Anybody else?
Audra Buckley, Planner
Michael R. Coker Company, Inc.
2700 Swiss Avenue, Suite 100
Dallas, TX 75204
(214) 821-6105 (v) ext. 207
(214) 821-6125 (f)
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[mailto:apatexas-bounces at list.planning.org] On Behalf Of Kelly Templin
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 9:21 AM
To: Fred Morris; apatexas at list.planning.org
Subject: Re: [ApaTexas] Store front churches
Fred:
I believe the Texas Religious Freedom Act will preempt any attempt you may
make to have churches abide by zoning. This "act" exempted religious
sanctuaries from zoning's locational criteria statewide. They will still
have to meet with other aspects of your codes (parking, landscaping,
building, etc.).
It might surprise you (but probably not) that the Attorney General proffered
up the TRFA whilst in the middle of his reelection campaign.
Kelly E. Templin, AICP
City of Seabrook
1700 First Street
Seabrook, TX 77586
<http://www.ci.seabrook.tx.us> www.ci.seabrook.tx.us
281.291.5731
281.291.5690 (fax)
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[mailto:apatexas-bounces at list.planning.org] On Behalf Of Fred Morris
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 9:01 AM
To: apatexas at list.planning.org
Subject: [ApaTexas] Store front churches
In efforts to stimulate downtown economic development/revitalization, we are
looking closely at the allowable use charts. Bail Bonding offices have
recently been removed and I'm curious if other cities have
restricted/removed churches as an allowable use by right in downtown areas.
Belton is the County seat, with the historic courthouse square but we also
have jail & courts complex.
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