[ApaTexas] Store front churches

[Cathy Allcorn]

Thank you.  I was also benefiting from the discussion and I am sharing the info  with my local Main Street Development departments.

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Subject: Re: [ApaTexas] Store front churches

I have to agree with Dan Boutwell.

C. A. McClain

Director, Community Development
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Subject: Re: [ApaTexas] Store front churches

Mr. Schulte,
I regret you are bothered with the responses.  However, they are very helpful to me since we are also addressing this issue with some of our other clients.  We would appreciate continuing the 'reply to all".  Perhaps your name needs to be removed from the list.

Respectfully submitted,
Municipal Planning Resources Group, Inc.
Dan
Dan C. Boutwell, AICP
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Subject: Re: [ApaTexas] Store front churches


While this dialog is interesting my email is crowded enough.  Please stop the reply to all.



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Subject: Re: [ApaTexas] Store front churches


Yes I agree.  Churches are technically
permitted by right in any zoning district but they must follow all other regulations.  For new construction, our zoning designates a church to follow a Neighborhood Services set of regulations (as well as schools and daycares).  Subregs are followed as if the church is a commercial use.  If a church goes into an existing structure the only restriction would be the number of parking spaces available and of course any building code changes if the structure is converting to an "assembly use".  Depending on size they may have to sprinkle and that can be an economic hurdle.



Kathryn Nilssen

Director of Planning

City of Forney

100 West Broad Street, Suite D

P.O. Box 826

Forney, TX 75126

972-564-7300 Ext 186

knilssen at cityofforney.org





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Subject: Re: [ApaTexas] Store front churches

Yes, I believe Kelly is correct.  The federal government passed RLUIPA in 2001 or possibly 2002 and many of the statutes passed since are based on this act.  The only legal way that I know of to regulate the location of churches is via access and parking requirements.  Anybody else?

Audra Buckley, Planner
Michael R. Coker Company, Inc.
2700 Swiss Avenue, Suite 100
Dallas, TX 75204
(214) 821-6105 (v) ext. 207
(214) 821-6125 (f)

From: apatexas-bounces at list.planning.org [mailto:apatexas-bounces at list.planning.org] On Behalf Of Kelly Templin
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Subject: Re: [ApaTexas] Store front churches

Fred:

I believe the Texas Religious Freedom Act will preempt any attempt you may make to have churches abide by zoning.  This "act" exempted religious sanctuaries from zoning's locational criteria statewide.  They will still have to meet with other aspects of your codes (parking, landscaping, building, etc.).

It might surprise you (but probably not) that the Attorney General proffered up the TRFA whilst in the middle of his reelection campaign...

Kelly E. Templin, AICP
City of Seabrook
1700 First Street
Seabrook, TX 77586
www.ci.seabrook.tx.us<http://www.ci.seabrook.tx.us>
281.291.5731
281.291.5690 (fax)
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Subject: [ApaTexas] Store front churches

In efforts to stimulate downtown economic development/revitalization, we are looking closely at the allowable use charts. Bail Bonding offices have recently been removed and I'm curious if other cities have restricted/removed churches as an allowable use by right in downtown areas. Belton is the County seat, with the historic courthouse square but we also have jail & courts complex.
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